Ask Aunt Cramer

Q: There seems to be a awful lot of rules here on the lake, and it seems like the Board is always passing new ones. What's the deal?

A: There are a lot of rules on Cherokee. No doubt about it. We are the permanent residence of between 2,500 and 3,000 souls. If you notice the population figures on the city limits signs in the towns in this part of the world, you will see that when you take away Tyler, Longview, Marshall, Kilgore, we are as big or bigger than most of the towns in East Texas. I can assure you that we do not have nearly as many rules, ordinances or laws as those small towns have; and most all of them are not nearly as densely populated as we are here. More people - closer together. That makes for more potential conflict - more opportunities for people to physically and aesthetically impact their neighbors. Our rules are largely created to deal with, avoid and mitigate those real, imagined and potential conflicts. And, as homes out here grow larger and more expensive, the development density level and the potential for differences increase and the tolerance levels of resident investors decreases.

Add to that our contract responsibilities to the folks to whom we sell our water, and more rules are required. Add to that the normal rules or laws you find anywhere designed to protect the property, the safety, the peace and the well-being of residents, and the list grows longer.

Add to that the rules believed to be necessary to ensure the continued unique private nature of our lake, and you end up with quite a collection of rules.

The Board just finished a three year omnibus review and amendment process to our rules that resulted in many rules being deleted, simplified or changed. It also resulted in some new rules, so the overall rule count admittedly did not go down much. In summary, if you do not like rules, don't move into a densely populated community. You won't find such a place with fewer rules or laws than we have. You probably need a place with few other folks around you. Even then, you will be surprised at the rules or laws to which you are subject.

 

Q: When a shareholder dies, what action is required of the surviving spouse or the estate regarding the transfer of stock?

A: Every share and lease has to be in the name of a real, living individual. The CWC will work with the surviving spouse or the estate of the deceased, and we understand that sometimes, probating an estate is not a simple or quick thing to accomplish. Our bylaws and most of our rules were written long ago, and many things are just not as simple as they used to be. All that said, the rules require that the share be transferred within one year and one day after the death of a shareholder.
 

Q: Why do CWC Rules require a "Spotter" 13 years of age or older to be in a boat pulling a tube or skier, when State law only requires the driver to have a rear view mirror?

A: We simply do not agree with the State that a driver with a 4 square inch rear view mirror can safely drive a boat, look for other boats, and keep an eye on those being towed. We do not feel that is a realistic expectation. The State rules are written with the average large public lake in mind, where boat densities are rarely what they are on crowded holiday weekends on Cherokee. It is worsened on Cherokee by the fact that for some reason, everyone wants to tow their tubes and skiers in and through the narrowest and most congested part of the open water.

Q: Why does the CWC forbid the use of PWC's to tow skiers and tubes? The State laws allow it if the PWC is equipped with an appropriate rear view mirror.

A: Quite honestly, the CWC rule was written before the PWC's became as large and powerful as they are now, and there was no way for a spotter to be aboard and still have room for those being towed to come aboard. Again, the CWC does not agree with the State that a 4 square inch mirror provides a reasonable expectation of safety in congested situations on our lake (note: most PWC's do not come equipped with a mirror that meets the Texas mirror requirement). The Board has discussed this, but has not been able to reach a comfort level with any change in this rule. So, we still do not allow it.

Q: Can you include more information on the CWC website
( www.cherokeewatercompany.com  ) Lakeometer besides simply the water level? Examples are a date of the reading, additional specific information regarding the impact of the water level on boating on the lake, and perhaps even a historical water level chart.

A: Great recommendation. We will contact our webmaster and begin implementing your ideas as soon as possible.

Q: We have not heard anything about Giant Salvinia lately. Any news?

A: The folks on Cherokee have been super in their individual and group efforts to keep the stuff out of our lake. We are constantly watching our containment areas, and have not found a trace of it so far. It is still all around us and the State is fighting hard to keep it in check. We have not discussed it because we have not tried it yet, but one of our Board members, Board Secretary Dirk Lee, Regional Manager of Great White Energy, has come up with a way to kill the stuff if we get it that we feel very certain will work on the Salvinia. He developed the idea after hearing Howard Elder's presentation at the Board meeting this past spring. To our knowledge, no one else has tried it yet. We are in discussions with State officials about trying it on existing infestations. The application technology is proprietary at this time and so I can not get into details about it. It uses readily available and cheap materials, uses no chemicals or anything that will harm the environment or wildlife. It is one of those brilliantly simple things that make you wonder why no one else has thought of it.

Q: What happened to the Kiwanis Club's Poker Run earlier this summer?

A: You can blame this entirely on the Lake Manager, who happens to be the local Lakeport Area Kiwanis Club's President this year. After organizing and publicizing the event, he found out that it is the current opinion of the State Attorney General and the local District Attorney that it is considered gambling, and illegal, in Texas for a non-profit organization to conduct a poker run for the purpose of raising money for charitable purposes. Not being in the mood to be prosecuted for illegal gambling, he cancelled the event only days before it was scheduled. There were a lot of folks looking forward to the event, and he apologizes for having to be the wet towel.
 

Q: How do we make reservations for the pavilions at Firecracker Park?

A:
The Board has not addressed that subject. Until or unless we receive direction to the contrary, the pavilions are on a first come - first serve basis.

 

Q: What can the CWC do involving recycling?

A:
Recycling is a real issue for those involved in solid waste. I hate to say it, and avid environmentalists do not want it said, but most recycling is for show. Most recycled materials, collected at a considerable cost to all involved, ends up in landfills. There is simply no viable market for most of it, particularly in these parts. The kinds of items that are economically viable, like aluminum cans, seem to take care of themselves. That is, individuals collect them and sell them to recyclers before the waste collectors and haulers get to them. It is a good mindset for us all to be conscious of what we discard and to train ourselves in the practice or philosophy of recycling, but we simply have to accept the fact that the educational process and the establishment of the mechanisms are the real value of the effort at this time. Did you know that book printing for the masses was the result of people beginning to wear undergarments? As they wore out their underwear, rag pickers would collect the holey drawers. They would then sell them to paper manufacturers who needed the cloth threads to make high quality paper. The availability of lots of good paper led to a demand for and development of the printing press - which led to mass production of affordable books. Education from underwear. Now that is good recycling.

That said, the CWC is doing its research and fact finding to establish a composting program at our convenience stations. We have visited other commercial composting sites and learned from their programs. We are not going to try to generate the commercial-grade compost you buy in bags from retailers. Our compost will be coarser than that, but our goal is to make compost that the shareholders can and will use without cost.

It will take us at least a year to "cook" the compost to the point that it will be ready for use. We do not plan on using any additives such as nitrogen or chemicals to enhance or speed the project. Our compost will be completely organic and natural. That also removes the necessity for expensive and time-consuming permits and paperwork from State or federal agencies. There is always a governmental agency obstructing and milking valuable effort. The CWC will be providing you with more information as the project develops.

 

Q: I often hear a large engine running early in the morning. It sounds like it is coming from the CWC office area. What is that?
A: You are probably hearing our diesel engine generator that powers the CWC Complex in the event of a power outage. Every Wednesday morning, it automatically comes on and exercises itself for about 15 minutes.

I appreciate the question, because it gives me a chance to talk about a subject we have not addressed in a couple of years, and many new shareholders probably do not know about it. The generator has several purposes. The main purpose is to provide power to keep our radios, repeater and communications system functioning, even in emergency conditions. It also powers the wireless internet service on the lake. The second purpose is to provide power for the control center that we set up at the CWC Complex if the Manager activates the Emergency Operations Plan. The third purpose is to provide power to operate the building as a dry, warm or cool emergency shelter for shareholders to come to in the event of a prolonged power failure or damage to their homes. We have a kitchen available and plenty of room for cots and pallets.

In regards to the Emergency Operations Plan: If we have a storm or emergency situation on the lake, the first order of business for our staff is to travel all the lake roads, searching for road blockages and serious damages to homes. We also go to shareholders who have contacted us earlier and asked us to check on them in such situations because they have special needs. Please contact the CWC office if you have special needs that could be impeded or interrupted by loss of power or severe weather conditions. You will be among the first we check on. Also, those of you with gates across your driveways need to call the office and make certain that our Patrol has the code or key location information to access your lot in an emergency.

Q: Why has the stump cutter been parked in front of the NI section?

A: It recently finished cutting the new boat roads above Silvey Bridge, and relocating the boat road by the Silvey Bridge boat ramp to make room for the Invasive Plant impoundment area. It's next mission is to remove pilings that are confusing the new and improved boat roads on the dam end of the lake. But, those cannot be removed until a shipment of buoys is received, and they are overdue. We are waiting on the manufacturer. This is the time of year when marinas, lakes, river authorities and ports do most of their buoy replacement, and so the manufacturers are all very busy. In the meantime, our crews are cutting off the tops of the stumps that stick up two or three feet above the water and sometimes are hard to differentiate from buoys in certain light conditions.

Q: What is the rule, if any, about people hauling their dogs, untethered, in the back of their pickup trucks?

A: There is no lake rule about whether or not the dogs must be tethered in the truck (or boat). But if the truck is stopped or moving slowly, and the dog sees another dog or pedestrian and jumps out, it is no different than letting them run loose. That is against the rules, and the owner is responsible for whatever happens. Most owners will say that their dogs will not jump out, but we all know that in most cases, that is simply because they have not yet been sufficiently tempted.

Keep in mind that our rules are written such that the fear or perception of an individual concerning what the dog might do is just as pertinent as what the dog actually does. You may know the dog will not bite, but the person the dog is running, growling or barking at, may not know that. Our rules intend that we neither are bitten by someone else's dog, nor should we have to be in fear of being bitten. When you own a dog in a neighborhood environment like ours, you have accepted a tremendous responsibility and potential liability that can not be taken lightly. The Manager says that most of the abuses of our dog control rules are by shareholders that have not been able to accept the changes in our community insofar as ever increasing numbers of permanent residents and the fact that the days of the fishing or hunting camp environment disappeared here a long time ago.

Q: Those pesky little yellow and black bees are driving me crazy, and despite what many have told me, they do sting. Is there any way to control them?

A: A good looking lady I know noticed that every time she looked away from her glass of wine while sitting on the deck, a bee would get in it. So now, she leaves a colorful goblet on the deck with about two fingers of cheap red wine in it. They cannot resist it and the glass has collected twenty or thirty bees in two weeks and caused them a painless and relatively happy demise. Once doused in the wine, they cannot (or do not want to) get out. They are no longer much of a problem at that location.
 

Q: A valuable part of our lifestyle and our continued health comes from our morning walks on the roads of our neighborhood. We have some shareholders who constantly speed and drive recklessly, and cause us to have to move out of the way in fear of being hit by them. What can be done about this?

A: We, like any other community, have folks who have little respect for others and seldom obey traffic laws and rules. Most of them also think they are a whole lot more important than the rest of us are, and are better drivers than they really are. Basically, they are rude people, and we cannot undo the way they were raised.

You, as a walker or jogger, also have responsibilities when on our roads. Stay on the left side of the road, facing traffic, and keep to the side, giving drivers plenty of room to move by you. You do not need an entire lane. If you walk at dusk or dawn, wear something reflective or light-colored so that you can be seen. Be aware of the position of the low setting or rising sun. What sight conditions do the drivers have to deal with as they approach you? Can they even see you in the sun's glare? Be aware that the times of day most of us want to walk or run are the most dangerous times as far as visibility and numbers of cars are concerned.

If you have someone in your area that perpetually drives recklessly, contact the CWC office and provide them with the name or lot number of the individual, if you can. Your complaint will be held in confidence, and the Manager will determine the best course of action to address the problem. If you do not know where the offender lives, give the CWC a description of the vehicle and driver, or even a plate number, and the area and time of day you usually see them. Patrol will take it from there.

 

Q: What do you think the impact of the declining housing market across the nation will be on Lake Cherokee?

A: I have no idea, but I have talked with several Realtors, bankers and real estate investors and they do not see the national trend spilling over to Lake Cherokee. As a matter of fact, the East Texas area seems to be an exception to the national trend so far. With apologies to former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his positive comments on America, a good way to measure the quality and viability of a nation - or a community - is the number of people who want in compared to the number who want out.

Q: What do I need to tell my insurance agent concerning the reduction of my home fire insurance rates that I read about in last month's Chatter?

A: We all live in the Gregg County Emergency Services District #1. The District contracts with the Elderville - Lakeport VFD for fire protection services. The two entities have succeeded in gaining a reduction in fire insurance ratings that should save everyone who lives within 1000 feet of a hydrant considerably more than the ten cents per one hundred dollar tax rate we pay the District each year. This was due to factors including the new fire stations, new equipment, staffing and personnel training. Tell your agent that for every resident of the district that lives within 1,000 feet of a fire hydrant, the new ISO rate has dropped from 8b to 4, with 10 being the worst and 1 being the best. The insurance companies all have access to and use this ISO information and should be fully aware of it. The CWC has nothing to do with the two water supply systems that serve the shareholders. Hydrant inquiries should be addressed to them or members of their Boards of Directors. The District and the VFD continue to work on ways to use the lake water availability in lieu of hydrants, but the fluctuating water depth is a problem. During the ISO re-rating inspection last fall, the lake was 5 feet low and a credit for lake water use in fire fighting was not considered.

Q:        I got yelled at by a man on his pier when I went by his place in a boat road. I thought the boat road speed was 20 mph?

 A:         Okay. Here’s how that works. Our boat roads do have a speed limit of 20 mph. But – and a big but it is – our rules and State law say that when you are within 50 feet of a structure, another boat, or the shoreline, you must be traveling at NO WAKE speed. This is for the safety of people swimming around their piers, boats backing out of boat houses, wave damage, safety and for simple courtesy. Over the last couple of years, our stump cutter has moved all but a couple of the boat roads away from the shoreline and structures by building new boat roads. In those few locations where the boat roads are still right next to the structures, it is because there are tree stumps that are too large for our stump cutter to handle that control our road placement. A good way to estimate 50 feet is about 2 ½ boat lengths. And by the way, there are very few places in our boat roads where you can meet another boat and not be closer than 50 feet to them. And another thing. You may receive a letter fining you for breaking the No Wake speed rule, even though you were not stopped and cited by a patrol officer. We have started placing officers on land or even on piers in high violation locations and allowing them to write citations by noting TX registration numbers or lot numbers on the boats and including descriptions of the boat and the operator.

Q:        I have encountered some shareholders who become very angry with me for fishing from my boat around their boathouses and piers. What is the rule? 

A:         No one can restrict or block any part of the lake water from access and use by boaters and fishers. I guess some folks, especially those who feed the fish, feel like they have a superior claim to the fish around their boathouses, but there is no rule to back them up. Of course there is the other side of the coin insofar as common courtesy and good manners are concerned. You see, I never get to hear just one side of an issue.

Q:        What's the story on the "Fish Habitat" signs I have seen in a couple of coves? 

A:         In a couple of the larger coves we dredged, some of the hundreds of stumps removed were turned upside down and partially buried in the mud with the root balls up. The idea was to try to create structure for fish. The signs are to let those fishing know where they are located, and also to let boaters know that if the water gets low, they could strike some of the roots if passing between the signs. I think we made the signs too large, and so we will be replacing them with smaller ones that are not so obtrusive, and in colors that blend a little better.

Q: How is "feet" calculated? The lake surely isn't 280 feet deep....

A: Lake levels are established according to the elevation contour lines found on topographic survey maps. Those contour levels relate to Mean Sea Level. In other words, our spillway elevation is 280 feet above Mean Sea Level. Mean Sea Level is an arithmetic average of the hourly ocean levels as tides rise and fall. I have found a fun way to explain this to your kids and grandkids is that when they are wading in the surf in Galveston, they are standing 280 below the surface of Lake Cherokee, and to return to Lake Cherokee, they have to drive 260 miles while climbing uphill almost the height of a 30 story building.

 

Q: Like Jesus preformed in the New Testament with the loaves and fishes, how does 8.8 inches of rain become five feet of water and fill an entire lake?

A: Thankfully, we are not limited to the amount of rain actually falling in our lake for our water. Lakes all have a drainage area larger than the lake itself., and they receive the rainwater runoff from the entire drainage area. In our case, our main drainage area extends all the way over to a point west of a line drawn between Henderson and Kilgore.

This is an over simplification since we are not considering the large contribution of many springs feeding our lake, but it can roughly be assumed that since 8.8 inches of rain became between 48 and 60 inches of water in the lake, then our drainage area must be over 6 times larger than our lake. It is also not uncommon for a certain part of our drainage area to receive a heavy volume of rain, and as a result, our lake rises, even though it may not have rained a drop on the lake.

Q: We live in a type of neighborhood that we should care about the neatness of our own places because our neighbors may not want to look at our junk, boat trailers, lawn mowers, piled up lumber, etc. I am tired of looking at my neighbor's junk. Please run an article about caring about your neighbors. Also, would you mention something about the lights shareholders are placing near the water or on their boathouses. Some lights are plum blinding and one can't even sit outside at night due to the blinding lights.

A: I couldn't say it any better.

Q:        Is there a Crime-Stoppers Program on the lake? 

A:         Yes and No. We do not have a chapter of Crime Stoppers on the lake. But there is a little known CWC Rule (Article V) which says;
"CWC, as a reward, will pay the sum of one thousand dollars ($1,000) to any person who furnishes the information leading to the arrest and conviction of any person guilty of committing a felony on the property of CWC. All Claims must be submitted to the Secretary of CWC within sixty (60) days after the conviction. 

Q:  I have a woody vine with small yellow blooms that is taking over my water frontage. What is it, and what can I do about it? 

A:  It is called Water Primrose and it is spreading in coves and even some open water areas around the lake. It is not as dangerous or invasive as hydrilla, but it comes close. A swimmer could easily tangle in it and boats cannot get through it when it forms a mat. I met with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Biologist and Aquatic Habitat Biologist at the hatchery in Jasper. They provided me with the name and source for a systemic chemical that is extremely effective in killing the primrose, that is safe for fish and for use in a drinking water reservoir, and which the TPWD is using. We have mounted a power sprayer on a barge and when the water gets back up high enough to get into the mats, we will be spraying the areas that are in danger of being blocked for shareholder access. We have experimented in several places around the lake with the chemical before the water level dropped and have had very good success.

Q: How does the dredge operation work? 

A: A dredge barge with a cutter head and suction pump removes sediment from the bottom of the lake and pumps it up through 8 inch pipe to a dewatering unit that separates the sediment into organic material, sand and silt. The material comes off the dewatering unit dry enough to handle and move to piles for storage. The dewatering plant is a large 9,000 gallon compartmentalized tank with electric motors. The dredge is diesel powered and has two independent star wheels or paddlewheels to propel it. The crew improves with experience on the equipment and is now moving from 80 to 110 tons of material a day, depending on the type of material the dredge is working in at the time. The Board is responsible for determining the work locations for the equipment. In order to move the dredge, we will find a location where we have room to sit the dewatering plant, and which has the three phase electric service available.

Q: Does a paddleboat with an electric trolling motor have to be registered?

A: The Texas laws require registration for all motorized boats regardless of length, all sailboats 14 feet in length or longer or any sailboat with an auxiliary engine(s).

Exempted vessels — All non-motorized canoes, kayaks, punts, rowboats, or rubber rafts (regardless of length) when paddled, poled, or oared and sailboats under 14 feet in length when wind powered.

 

Q:     It seems like we are seeing more and more trees cut on lake lots and around the lake. Is the number increasing, or is just my imagination?

A:     It is not your imagination. Shareholders now are building colossal houses on very small lots and steep lots previously thought to be unbuildable. Our rules allow them to remove whatever trees are necessary for constructing improvements on the lot. With site grading, houses, porches, decks, pools, garages, carports, storage buildings, shop buildings, gazebos, piers, sidewalks, circular driveways, parking areas, retaining walls and aerobic systems, there is not much room left for trees on most lots. Then, they may cut 20 percent of the remaining trees over 10 inches in diameter for landscaping purposes, once each five years. There are no rules about cutting trees less than 10 inches in diameter.

We also have a lot of gas well drilling going on, and they typically require a drilling pad that is flat and clear of trees and about 300 feet by 200 feet in size plus the truck access road. That is at least an acre and a half. Factor in the cutting being done by Rusk County Electric Co-op to provide us with adequate electrical power and to minimize the risk of outages, and the count goes up even higher. It is definitely not your imagination.


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